Margaret Hoover moderated a conversation with General Jim Mattis, former U.S. Secretary of Defense, and Ryan Holiday, bestselling author and modern interpreter of Stoic philosophy, on the character that sustains a republic. Drawing on experience in military command, classical philosophy, and the enduring example of America’s founding generation, including their shared admiration for George Washington, the discussion explored the virtues that have defined American leadership at its best: discipline, moral courage, humility in the exercise of power, and a profound sense of duty.

This live episode of Firing Line considered how those principles continue to define the American idea, and what they require of leaders and citizens alike in the decades ahead.

FEATURING

Margaret Hoover

Margaret Hoover is the host of PBS’s Firing Line with Margaret Hoover, a public affairs program dedicated to rigorous, civil discourse. She has served in the White House under President George W. Bush, at the Department of Homeland Security, on Capitol Hill, and on two presidential campaigns. A bestselling author, she is president of the American Unity Fund and serves on several nonprofit boards, including Stanford’s Hoover Institution.
 

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General Jim Mattis, US Marine Corps (Ret.), is the Davies Family Distinguished Fellow at the Hoover Institution and served as the nation’s 26th Secretary of Defense after his 2017 confirmation. Over a forty-three-year Marine Corps career, he commanded at every level, leading forces in Afghanistan and Iraq and later overseeing U.S. Central Command. He also served as NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander for Transformation. He is the author of the New York Times bestseller Call Sign Chaos.

Ryan Holiday

Ryan Holiday is bestselling author and modern interpreter of Stoic philosophy. His books—including The Daily StoicThe Obstacle Is the WayEgo Is the EnemyStillness Is the Key, and his #1 New York Times series on the Stoic Virtues—have sold more than 10 million copies in over forty languages. He lives outside Austin, Texas, with his wife, two sons, and a small herd of farm animals, and owns The Painted Porch bookstore in Bastrop.

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