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Cross-border supply chains bring great efficiencies but also present vulnerabilities that adversaries can exploit. How should we think about these vulnerabilities and their implications for economic and national security? How can we identify, assess, and respond to these vulnerabilities? Steve asks two noted trade policy experts, Chad Bown and Soumaya Keynes.
Recorded on May 13, 2026.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Soumaya Keynes is an economics columnist for the Financial Times and host of “The Economics Show with Soumaya Keynes,” a weekly podcast bringing economics to life. Previous posts include Britain economics editor at The Economist magazine and policy advisor to Her Majesty’s Treasury. She is the co-author, with Chad Bown, of How to Win a Trade War: An Optimistic Guide to an Anxious Economy.
Chad Bown is the Reginald Jones Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics and host of “Trade Talks,” a podcast about the economics of international trade and policy. He previously served as chief economist at the US Department of State, senior economist for international trade and investment on President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, economist at the World Bank, and a tenured professorship at Brandeis University.
RELATED SOURCES
- Keynes, Soumaya, and Chad P. Bown. How to Win a Trade War: An Optimistic Guide to an Anxious Economy. New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 2024.
- Bhagwati, Jagdish. In Defense of Globalization. New York: Oxford University Press, 2004.
- Chad Bown website and Trade Talks Podcast
- Soumaya Keynes website and Economics Show Podcast
ABOUT THE SERIES
Each episode of Economics, Applied, a video podcast series, features senior fellow Steven Davis in conversation with leaders and researchers about economic developments and their ramifications. The goal is to bring evidence and economic reasoning to the table, drawing lessons for individuals, organizations, and society. The podcast also aims to showcase the value of individual initiative, markets, the rule of law, and sound policy in fostering prosperity and security.
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